’OUVRIER Le mec que j’ai rencontré ensuite bossait sur une plateforme pétrolière. Il était immense et avait les dents toutes tordues mais c’était charmant. Quand je suis arrivée chez lui, j’ai été étonnée parce que tout était propre et bien rangé. C’était un petit appartement au dernier étage, avec un drapeau de l’Union Jack au mur et un tapis de course, tout tristounet. Il y avait un assortiment de thés parfumés posés sur la table de sa cuisine, j’ai trouvé ça rigolo. Il avait plein de disques. J’ai jeté un coup d’œil et il a été impressionné parce que je connaissais A Certain Ratio. On s’est tout de suite bien entendus, il aimait discuter. Je lui ai posé des questions sur son boulot, il m’a parlé de ce qu’il faisait, de sa famille, m’a montré une photo de lui à 14 ans, avec une crête. Il fumait clope sur clope et buvait de la vodka directement au goulot.
Dix minutes après, on était dans la salle de bain. Il m’a prise dans ses bras et m’a jeté dans un coin de la douche, ensuite il m’a soulevée par les cheveux d’une manière complètement tordue, ce qui faisait que je n’étais ni debout, ni à genoux. Il avait des mains immenses, je les ai vues arriver de chaque côté de mon visage et il m’a giflé, encore et encore.
Il est devenu dingue et m’a éclaté la lèvre. Il m’a attrapée par les cheveux et a tiré, en faisant aller ma tête d’avant en arrière. Ensuite, il m’a repoussée et m’a craché au visage. Il a mis ses mains autour de mon cou et m’a envoyée contre le mur. Il m’a tapé plusieurs fois la tête contre le mur. Il a pris une latte en bois, l’a cassée sur son genou et s’est approché de moi.
Ça m’a laissé des marques et je n’ai pas pu m’asseoir pendant plusieurs jours.
LE JEUNE MEC
C’était à Londres. Un pote m’a traînée dans un bar de merde où un mec a mis sa main sous ma robe et m’a peloté le cul. J’étais bourrée, c’était vaguement agréable et il était vaguement mignon. Il essayait de faire caillera londonienne. Il me disait: «Tu veux venir chez moi?» Mais il a dû le répéter cinq fois parce que son accent était si prononcé que je ne comprenais absolument rien. Je suis partie avec lui sans trop savoir pourquoi. On a attendu un taxi. Je me sentais de plus en plus mal. Je me suis dit que j’allais sûrement vomir en chemin. On est arrivé chez lui, il habitait dans le complexe industriel le plus isolé et décrépi que j’ai jamais vu et j’ai sérieusement pensé qu’il allait peut-être me tuer. C’était un sentiment bizarre.
Une fois que j’ai passée la porte, il l’a claquée derrière lui et m’a arraché la robe et a commencé à arracher ses propres fringues. Et puis il s’est mis à me hurler dessus, littéralement, avec son accent incompréhensible. J’étais bourrée et je pense qu’on s’est tous les deux évanouis parce que je me souviens que c’est le son de sa voix, et le fait qu’il me traînait sur le sol, qui m’a réveillé. Et d’un coup, il me l’a fourré dans le cul. Ça m’a fait mal et je lui ai crié dessus, mais il m’a ignorée. J’avais un peu l’impression que j’étais en train de me faire violer, parce qu’il m’empêchait de bouger et me défonçait sans répit. La douleur était vraiment perçante et à chaque fois que j’essayais de me dégager, il me hurlait dessus avec son accent pourri. Quand il a enfin arrêté, quelques heures plus tard, il m’a poussé loin de lui et le lit était couvert de sang. Il m’a demandé de partir. J’ai raté le dernier train et j’ai dû prendre un taxi pour rentrer, ça m’a coûté une fortune. Je me suis sentie mal pendant environ cinq jours, physiquement et mentalement.
Je ne sais pas pourquoi je ne cherche pas la même chose que les autres filles, la stabilité, le petit ami. C’est bien plus intense de rencontrer des inconnus. C’est débile, c’est inconscient, c’est dangereux, oui, c’est tout ça à la fois. Mais c’est seulement quand je ressens cette intensité que j’arrive à me lâcher.
Ça te donne le droit de choisir qui tu veux être, de faire ce que tu veux, d’effacer ton passé et ton avenir.
Tu disparais, c’est tout.
Propos de MARY MUSTAPHA recueillis par le staff de VICE
Drink Of milk , on Jul 16 2008 02:40:42 AM wrote: J'ai comme une envie de vomir.
De m'évanouir.
Jamais la lecture d'un article ne m'as rendu si mal à l'aise.
C'est d'une tristesse...
Charles Villeneuve, on Jul 15 2008 05:09:15 PM wrote: Super c'est encore plus bandant que le Droit de Savoir
Subject: la tipa Date: Mar 26 2007 04:12:13 AM Author: sar
praticamente a sta tipa una scopata gli costa dai3 ai 5 giorni di convalescenza circa 3 scopate al mese......mah!!!
i don't fine this article particularly shocking. i think it spotlights a growing tendency in women to feel most secure when they are most emotionally isolated. it used to be a thing to reserve your body for one man and wear your heart on your sleeve, now its the other way around. though not to this kind of extreme, I think most girls experiment with being empowered in this way- by letting some guy unleash his hate on them and feeling like it still can't break them.
Subject: bizzare. Date: Feb 08 2007 08:46:53 PM Author: not much thought
ok, so no hot chicks could possibly be into this? i am a hot chick and yes i do this stuff too. maybe it is a way to commit suicide really slowly, but it works. i just thought i was the only girl on earth like that, but it seems i´m not.
Subject: jeez guys! Date: Feb 06 2007 08:01:01 PM Author: Some mid-20s guy in Toronto
What freedom! Not caring about one's own safety, life, whatever... it's the kind of freedom most of us will never know, most of us would never want it, I mean, I'll probably never have that. I sort of have a self-destructive streak, but it's bad because I also really care about myself and there are a lot more important things to me than momentary gratification, so I should be more careful.
Every once i awhile I do something stupid, like I met this dude at a bar and he gave me some coke, and I ended up at his place deep-throating his cock and writhing around on his bed, and although I'm pretty straight those were fantasies of mine and whatever. When he finally stuck it in my ass it was like five in the morning and pretty quick I was like "forget this, i'm going home" and his buddy drove me home right away, but it could have turned real bad I guess. But I can understand, it's so irritating to be looking out for oneself all the time. Just letting go and seeing what kind of crazy shit can happen to oneself is so liberating, as long as you can go all the way with it.
But hey people, consider this: there are way too many people around already, and I think that experiential material, the things that happen to people and the stories they have to tell, are more important than each and every six billion of our personal safety, really. If that doesn't make sense to you then I understand: our imaginations don't overlap.
Subject: hmm Date: Feb 03 2007 06:39:05 PM Author: fastool
i feel so sad i just want to make it better ya know, fuking hell that shit it's really hard to get through my head, god i hope she finds somebody who respects her.
Subject: No.. Date: Feb 03 2007 08:35:00 AM Author: Jean
HAVE SOME SELF RESPECT.
Subject: fetish Date: Feb 02 2007 06:33:17 AM Author: ally
I used to think I was into s&m
I found this story quite frightening, so i think I was wrong.
Subject: need information Date: Feb 01 2007 11:23:48 AM Author: jacques levesque
I have difficulties with my Englis tongue.I live in Quebec province in canada and I ould like prefer to have it in French. Give information.I will appreciated.Your trouly.Jacques
Subject: comments Date: Jan 31 2007 12:36:01 PM Author: hi
People who are convinced it's made up: If you take any abnormal psych class anywhere you'll have at least one lecture about people who are into "self-harm" probably even read a case study that would sound very much like this. Cutting and anorexia are just quieter versions of the same thing, and every high school in america has those girls. They even talk about "release" and "intensity" the same way this girl does. She's just torturing herself via someone else.
And why would anyone think she's "awsome" or congratulate her for doing this?? It's like cheering someone on while they slash their wrists or hang themselves...
Subject: Check the dictionary Date: Jan 31 2007 12:11:32 PM Author: Miss definition
Though VICE doesn't work entirely within the restrictions of its own name don't forget that the magazine is, in fact, titled VICE... I title which I'm pretty sure includes this sort of activity, so don't complain when they do the publication some justice.
Subject: weird Date: Jan 30 2007 10:27:00 PM Author: meh
it's weird because everyones heard wayyy more fucked up stories then this.. but for some reason when it got to the young english guy part, i got really sad.
alright.
Subject: savvy Date: Jan 30 2007 07:55:55 PM Author: yeah i guess
im all for freedom to do whatever we want sexually, but theses behaviours are not normal for good reason in most cases, viloent fledgling psychopath rapist/killers are born of these things. your just giving them an outlet to practice till the have enough balls to kick her ass till shes dead and then fuck her corpse :P
Subject: Article Date: Jan 30 2007 03:47:49 PM Author: Cocksucker
You'd have to be pretty creative to make this up. This is the kind of fucked up shit that has to be real.
Subject: movie Date: Jan 30 2007 12:25:06 AM Author: alex
kind of Piano Teacher-y.
i don't understand Mary like i didn't understand the character in the Haneke film.
Subject: fucking read the story.. Date: Jan 29 2007 08:17:04 PM Author: abs
ive been sitting here reading other ppls comments...and im sick of hearing the same thing over and over again...MARY DOESNT DO THIS FOR SEXUAL GRATIFICATION!
yes,what she lets other ppl do to her may be a tad hard for you shallow minds to comprehend..open your eyes!theres a whole world out there with billions of ppl..you think thats anything compared to what we dont get to hear about?
this story intrigued me..it could be real..it could be fake..whatever it was..i found it wierd and wonderful..it made me want to try it..but i dont think i ever could..if that floats her boat..good for her..just dont get killed in the process..thats the only reason i think i wouldnt try it..id also feel fairly sketchy about meeting strangers on the net..i wouldnt do that EVER..in normal circumstances..let alone for this purpose..come on ppl..we all have our little fantasies and secrets..most of us just arent brave enough to act on them..that said,if i ever was brave enough to try it,it would NEVER be with someone i didnt trust..i wouldnt want to end up in the wrong side of town being another masochistic statistic..standing ovation baby, standing ovation..
i liked it, was a good read, gave me a little more perspective and is definatly impressive-not sure i could get back up and take another beating.
Subject: Dr. Shitbox loves Molly's Ringwald Date: Jan 29 2007 09:44:39 AM Author: Rock Wallaby
Fiction or not, plenty o' people love to do seriously fucked up shit and many enjoy having fucked up shit done to them.
Does it require a shrink?
Probably, but that's the fucked up individuals choice. Hmm...to choke on choad and bathroom tile or see Dr. Shitbox who makes you blame mom and dad. But what if dad ass-fucked your brains out and eat your young puss and you actually liked it? Its no wonder you pick the bathroom tile face plant fuck. Damn it dad.
Personally, I'd take the Molly Ringwald- even though I here it itches real bad for a few days.
Subject: Fake? More like closed minded readers Date: Jan 28 2007 08:42:15 PM Author: C JB
What the hell do you mean fake?
You obviously live a very sheltered life if you dont realise that amongst the 6 billion people on this earth. MANY of them have habits and fantasies that you would find strange. Why do you think women are always being caught having sex with horses? They cant help it, its just what turns them on. Just like this girl enjoys being hurt. Strange but true.
Subject: right Date: Jan 28 2007 05:11:50 PM Author: Dr.E
This is totally fake.
Subject: ... Date: Jan 28 2007 04:07:34 PM Author: unome
um,no
Subject: ... Date: Jan 28 2007 04:03:57 PM Author: gypsy
that was strange.
i agree with holly, she says she enjoys this but through all her stories she never really proves it.
i think that if i wasn't a lesbian, i might actually be really into this kind of thing.
Subject: this issue wants a different name... Date: Jan 28 2007 03:45:55 AM Author: ...
why does this girls issue focus on marginal extremes? it's trying to define something by showing what it isn't. so far we have girl fights, more girl fights, mutilation, abuse, and filth. what else?
Subject: no breakfast afterwards? Date: Jan 28 2007 12:18:15 AM Author: Holly
In the beginning of the story she explained about how she got off on this sort of thing, but as I continued to read each individual story I found nothing that backed that up. It's a story that makes you very angry, and taking it out on the magazine or the girl who had it published isnt really whats going on. These things happen every day. What I did find myself wondering among other things though is that she never propositioned any of these men, but instead suggested in a way that she was a magnet for contunual abuse. guys dont just jump on you at a bar and start feeling up your skirt and dragging you into the bathroom. At least, not in any bars I've frequented. I wonder how much time she gives herself in between men to clean up a bit and put some neosporin on her cuts. Maybe thats the giveaway, the universal sign of the he-man woman haters club to pounce.
sad.
Subject: worth Date: Jan 27 2007 10:22:33 PM Author: still laughing
to frankie and the rest of you on your own carefully carved pedestals...
how about you:
tell me more
about:
-pretension and judgement
-a tenuous, easily defined, "sanity"
-consent in the context of glossy sales
-the purity of experiential wisdom
-the variability of morality
-the truth of a childs perception
and i'll tell you:
i am delighted
to see your inability to recognise that:
your responses only work as an uncompromising mirror of your true self.
Subject: reply to "laughing" Date: Jan 27 2007 04:38:31 PM Author: frankie
"it's just not good enough to consider what moment itself for you."
your sentence is a little jumbled, but yes, that's exactly right.
this boho,aesthetic-appreciation-above-all-else mentality that you are championing here (seen also in gus van zant's "elephant") is in fact utterly juvenile.
"you need sordid details of "victim-hood" to really enjoy it, don't you?"
sorry if its not PC and live-and-let-live enough for you, but the decisions she describes here are not free will decisions.
"are you so ignorant that you will attack those aspects of reality that you do not want to accept?"
What "aspects of reality"? You're implying, i assume, that Mary's behavior is merely the product of her own innate desires and cannot be judged, and that the assumption of underlying causes is due to sqeamishness.
That is a nice free-will fantasy, but it is totally naive. These kinds of behavioral patterns DO NOT just appear out of nowhere.
People that fail to recognize this are either psychotics or children; she falls into the former category, and you and Vice fall into the latter.
Subject: ! Date: Jan 27 2007 10:46:48 AM Author: 666
BORING
Subject: ZzzZZ Date: Jan 27 2007 10:40:26 AM Author: Dave
Why am I reading this when i could just watch the life time channel?
The demographic you guys are after are middle aged over protective mothers. Who need ammo to say "SEE!! there are creeps out there! So! no you can't sleep over Becky's house!"
Subject: Sad incendiary bullshit Date: Jan 27 2007 08:43:19 AM Author: I've had enough of you fucks
I fail to see what the purpose of this "story" was.
To glorify a sad, pathetic "hobby"?
To get people riled up enough to comment on it?
To tell someone's story?
To shock people?
Really, I'm lost.
Everyone's got an opinion it seems, but this kind of crap just leaves me numb
It's this kind of inane dross that's so typical of the vaccous shit Vice think is worth printing.
Subject: Uh-huh Date: Jan 26 2007 10:16:36 PM Author: Charles
This girl must have read a little too much Georges Bataille when she was young.
Subject: dull Date: Jan 26 2007 09:35:03 PM Author: js
The specific danger this article poses is that the male fantasy of sexual domination is left completely unchallenged. You are all totally guilty of perpetuating an acceptance of sexual brutality.
Subject: this Date: Jan 26 2007 07:49:47 PM Author: laughing
the idiocy displayed by practically all of you "commentators" on here is utterly fantastic.
a) this article is written in the present. the past you all long to hear is the most lurid detail that you yourself want to see. it's just not good enough to consider what moment itself for you. you need sordid details of "victim-hood" to really enjoy it, don't you?
b) are you completely unaware of the transcendent nature of true expression? or do you feel more comfortable with something that operates within the acceptable and conventional genre of "fiction" (that which cannot be proved to be true). maybe you just stick with chuck palahnuik. are you so ignorant that you will attack those aspects of reality that you do not want to accept?
your moralistic reactions to this only reveal yourself, not the author (of what is a remarkably thought-provoking and powerfully expressed piece of writing).
Subject: and then? Date: Jan 26 2007 05:36:15 PM Author: yawn
It's so 'nice' to see all these 'nice' people believing all these 'nice' stories.
Ya, you kinda need to work further in your fiction Vice. And a bit in your creativiy too.
Subject: frankie Date: Jan 26 2007 05:06:32 PM Author: not BD/SM and not a good article
No, no, this is nothing to do with BDSM. It is quite simply a very sick (albeit lucid) person suffering from serious childhood trauma and/or severe mental illness.
This terrible article is NOT "just letting her story speak for itself" because it is not really the whole story - it is merely the most lurid surface details.
Subject: BD / SM Date: Jan 26 2007 03:34:01 PM Author: I am.
Don't kid yourself -- S&M is very much about the pain sometimes. (Sometimes it's about inflicting OTHER sensations as well.) The dress-up/play stuff is something other -- role playing, power exchange, whatever. But there is often very real pain involved in S&M.
Subject: later edit Date: Jan 26 2007 02:17:21 PM Author: gigi
i think secretly she wants some of these psichopats to kill her.i think something awful happened at one point in her life that drove her to commit suicide but she couldn't do it herself,so she decided to let herself slowly be killed by these guys.i think she wants the attention,she wants to be the victim nr#33 in a serial killer's list.too bad.you can t imagine how easy it is to ameliorate her condition through medication at first and teraphy
Subject: hmm Date: Jan 26 2007 02:11:03 PM Author: ggi
pure text book masochist. that's all.hope she isn't killed by one of these fuckers.but imagine being a girl and meeting that oil rig worker in a bar ,getting pisssed out drunk and then having the "bathroom" treatment.i ve never heard of a woman taking a beating like that and still being alive to tell it.the s&m bondage stuff with leather and chains isn't about pain,in fact they almost never inflict this degree of suffering on their partners,it s more about simbolism and fethisism that's why many non-deviant people practice it.and i know a couple of oil rig workers myself and those guys are the strongest i know so you can imagine how hard he must have hit her.poor girl.she must seek help
Subject: Assistant DA Date: Jan 26 2007 01:36:09 PM Author: Jack McCoy
" I was kind of feeling like I was getting r@ped or something, because he wouldn’t let me move and wouldn’t stop pounding me. "
Uhhh. Yeah, that is r@pe, actually.
Oh, and "charmingly crooked teeth"? Huh?
Subject: Could be real... Date: Jan 26 2007 10:18:41 AM Author: I am.
Whether this particular version of the story is real, the broader story certainly is. If it's a genuine piece, it could have been made a lot more interesting (not to mention relevant) if we found out a little about Mary's life. She clearly wanted to expand a bit on that. Her self-loathing is obvious, not necessarily because of the masochism but because of the extreme drinking binges. YES I think binge-drunks are LESS healthy than masochism. As for there not being any real -- let alone "hot" -- women who do this, I've got a little secret for you. I don't seek out strangers, but I have a couple of regular lovers who can beat on me harder than they can their sparring partners. Just never the face (which points out a clear difference -- we have *some* delineated "rules").
Subject: haha Date: Jan 26 2007 08:25:18 AM Author: Dave
What's funny is that Jo took Mary's last name as real - but everything else is fake. Yeah, the "Mustaphas" in Norway probably are at the fringes of society...and that's TOTALLY HER REAL NAME, JO! That's the one part that Vice made up that Vice didn't make up that Mary did didn't make up.
Vice, you totally need to learn to write credible fiction. You like OMG should have gone with Solmssen or something.
Subject: nuts Date: Jan 26 2007 07:27:31 AM Author: paul
wow. what a weekend!
Subject: rubbish, eh? Date: Jan 26 2007 01:28:49 AM Author: alajandres mccuster
if you want me to use you like a rubbish bin, let me stuff some of my tampons, banana peels, and used condoms down your throat. THat's how i treat my rubbish bin. duh.
Subject: verify Date: Jan 26 2007 01:25:34 AM Author: hartiford
true or not, without a real contact my natural sceptism tells me to take this with a very large pinch of salt - a bit like when The Sun gets a story from "a source close to x" or "an isider says..." :/
photos look pretty good - not unfakable but if your gonna demand proof for everything on the internet then your gonna end up beieving in nothing, but perhaps its just one of Vices girlfiends who likes it rough. who knows!
could be real could be fake - if its true, wheres the connections - how did the writer meet mary? i reckon he could be the "street kid look" guy in the last annecdote. sounds like the sort of 'edgy character' who would write this stuff?
Subject: this article will be legendary Date: Jan 25 2007 10:18:27 PM Author: Ralphy
So Mary is fake, AND a composite, AND Vice selectively distorted her story? Impressive.
And Jo, get some help. Honestly. This story obviously touched a raw nerve. VICE comments isn't the place to solve your trouble.
And by the way, if you read the fucking article you would know it wasn't about sexual arousal for Mary.
Subject: Why Date: Jan 25 2007 07:42:55 PM Author: clem
You're going to get fucked over one too many times, then need a) a very understanding partner (who's probably a walkover) or b) a good therapist. I'm thinking this as you're obviously a yank from the last paragraph. If you were from the UK I doubt you'd be shouting about this.
So, allow me to go first as you're paying by the hour.. Did you and your father have a good relationship?
Subject: Stain Remover Date: Jan 25 2007 07:07:38 PM Author: Jo
On a compasionate note to anyone who is truly empathising with this reconditioned account of 'Marys'depravity. Remember that this sort of thing corrodes society by ennuring emotional response and conditioning apathy. This sort of shit shouldn't be allowed to infect people so easy...but cheap Internet publishing has it's drawbacks as well.
I'm sure there are some people out there who can't figure out how to *play rough* without fucking it up with their own shit. Without blindly tripping over the line into destructive violence, and not having enough clue to manage the grey areas where they have to face things about themselves, and their own weaknesses.
Get some help, get better, or just drop dead and quit wasting clean air.
That includes the Ed staff
Subject: shitstains Date: Jan 25 2007 07:05:32 PM Author: Jo
What is truly a pitaable product of a depraved little post adolescent mind...Is that the writer who puked out that fucked up shit is probably some auto-financed little punk wannabe who never had to risk anything in their own life. Never had to face any challenges along the way, and is now seeking some fictional catharsis to prove how "tough" and genuinely fucked up they wish they were....Of course this exercise in self-flagelation is compeltely contrived, since they would never have the courage to face such danger in real life of course.
Final nod goes to the shit eating Editors for not only continuing in Vice's illustrious history of deceit and misrepresentation (as 'Mary's Story' is just the fictional scat that it is), but also for leveraging/editing that sad scenario into pure sh(l)ock content....Not even a shred of (advise with-held) to make it any more credible.
If there is even one person in every million who would consider hardcore violence to be highly sexually arousing enough to engage in it...Even fictionally....Then there are places on the Internet for you to engage yourself further into your own sickness, or lifeless shocktherapy/curiosity...Apperantly Vice is on that list as well.
Vice just used "Mary's" story to yet again lower their bar on what is fit to print. Garnering themselves a choice place in the dungheap to feed from.
Subject: More Shit Date: Jan 25 2007 06:59:39 PM Author: Jo
Just for the sake of distendign a CommentThread...If "Mary" could indeed be a PERSON with a right to free speech, she is certainly free to express those anywhere she wants, inasmuch as distributed media has the right to an Editorial say, and displaying it's own social values, as well.
That schlock isn't worthy of comparison to Journalistic standards...So don;t even bother callign that contrived crap an "interview". Unless you want peopekl to cast you int the same value category as Vice Magazine.
If we can call "MAry" a real person...Like say uhm...The writer of this story :
"Mary" can certainly face her own cathartic consequences out here in the real world if she like to voice them there ** alThough the "Mustafa's" in Norway are probably on the fringes of the local Society anyhow huh **
(learn to write credible fiction shithead)
"Mary" would need a clue on where to find anything real at this point...given what she needs to resort to this sort of fantasy to try and add some ectasy to her questionable existance....and worthiness as a human being.
Subject: Shit Eaters Date: Jan 25 2007 06:46:10 PM Author: Jo
"Mary" can tell her story to anyone she likes in a free society.
Of course you'd have to be a PERSON not a morbid composite sketch, that was likely fleshed out with depraved minute detail to make the lie more entertaining...Since a PERSON would not have likely shown as many inconsiostencies, and betraying embellishments to their account of such events.
Well...That and the fact that Vice is a notorious source of contrived garbage, meant primarily to draw attention to itself. DUH
This 'story' was clearly SCRIPTED and tweaked for effect....Mary's 'story' is mostly a matter of Editorial choices, selective non-disclosure, and implicit meaning.
Hey Vice...You guys left way to many incriminating detials behind for that crap to be truly beleivable !
Subject: eek Date: Jan 25 2007 06:35:56 PM Author: eep
All I can say is whether or not this article is real of fake, it's fucking vivid and whoever wrote/doctored this article/fiction is fucked up much more than the whole department of writers and journalists and this real/fake woman (who clearing needs to see a therapist, I'm in the bandwagon about no-show-daddy and mommy).
What I can't believe is that the editor should've thought it through before letting it get printed, if anything this deserves to stay online with everyone's reactions. I can't imagine what kind of damage it would do to some dumb shit tween this day in age, boy or girl alike.
Subject: Wicked... Date: Jan 25 2007 06:35:16 PM Author: 3r41n14c
This is exactly the way guys treat girls right before they deny their heterosexuality...
This chick is awesome in her nihilism.
Subject: holly fucking christ Date: Jan 25 2007 06:18:24 PM Author: god damn...
i think i need to go pray now......
Subject: fucked up Date: Jan 25 2007 06:11:08 PM Author: p4
well done, vice. those of you who can't stomach it should point the finger elsewhere. it's not their job to make it nice and tidy for you. it's just one person's story. what are you mad at?
Subject: puah! Date: Jan 25 2007 04:23:51 PM Author: normal girl
You are f*cking stupid, pathetic, bored and the only problem is that nobody never gave you any limit...
Subject: Vice is Date: Jan 25 2007 03:44:33 PM Author: fuckshit
hey, where did the wood slat come from in the bathroom?
Her description of tidy sounds more like bare. I thought she was looking for rough sex, why did she feel wrongfully x'd that last time? She put it in the list of experiences she liked
Subject: disgusted Date: Jan 25 2007 03:12:27 PM Author: siobhan
i officially hate you, vice
Subject: Rated Date: Jan 25 2007 02:58:11 PM Author: Chavmaster
On a scale of 1 to 10, I give this a Molly Ringwald.
Subject: pro or antifeminist backlash? you decide Date: Jan 25 2007 01:23:15 PM Author: wait a minute...
Hey Jo (and the rest of you idiots), shouldn't Mary be allowed to tell her story the way she wants to? Is she not allowed to claim ownership of her experiences? By saying the form (and content) of Mary's story-telling was the work of VICE editors you are telling yet another woman she is not allowed to express herself the way she wants to. Didn't think of that, did you?
Subject: her Date: Jan 25 2007 01:15:40 PM Author: own
To each his or her own...
I think I'd probably try this with a girl but, as stated before, there are no hot chicks begging for a beating.
Subject: Excrement Eaters Date: Jan 25 2007 01:00:54 PM Author: Jo
Seems that Vice has now resorted to openly flaunting its preference for the taste of the bottom dredged shitty sluice juice that they continue to publish as 'writing'.
This magazine is now officially a credible combination of commercial AdAccount cock-sucking, self-fabricated shock-schlock....a poor coverup for creative bankruptcy...Welcome to your denoument Vice....You people are now reprehesible rejects from the bonefide human race....You are part of the problem now...not the solution.
A special Fuck You for the greasy shit eating Vice Editors...and especcially the spinless coward who wants to delete this comment.
Subject: . Date: Jan 25 2007 01:00:10 PM Author: .
vice is shit
Subject: post traumatic writing skills Date: Jan 25 2007 12:51:40 PM Author: pm
"...a sad-looking treadmill..."
WTF?
Subject: bubbles Date: Jan 25 2007 11:53:31 AM Author: popped
so on another note, how much did it cost american apparel to buy the cover of this issue?
Subject: stop the bleeding Date: Jan 25 2007 11:50:37 AM Author: sigh
i thought this was the girls issue. not the fuck girls up issue. wtf, vice?
Subject: Good honest reportage Date: Jan 25 2007 11:36:55 AM Author: Ed Gein
Thanks for providing your readers with such valuable reporting. We need to get these stories out there so the abuse-positive community can counter all the propaganda about "innocent victims." Also think of all the rapists and woman beaters who have been to feel ashamed of themselves for no reason. Society suffers when women don't celebrate being maimed!!
Subject: chicks Date: Jan 25 2007 11:21:17 AM Author: ashley
theres are chicks that are into this, but they aren't hot..
Subject: um hell yesssssssssssssssssssssss Date: Jan 25 2007 10:56:26 AM Author: the boys
we need more of this in vice, more modern liberated women and if this is a total lie i really do hope there are some hot chicks who are really into this
Subject: "i don't know why..." Date: Jan 25 2007 10:53:01 AM Author: Frankie
People aren't just born like this. It is well documented that people with these kind of tendencies are responding to a traumatic past.
It would therefore have been completely valid to broach the subject of early life.
Had the Vice Staff had bothered to ask any questions on her early life - rather than pumping her for every juicy detail - this article might have been worth reading.
Failing/refusing to look below the immediate surface of a story is NOT tantamount to "telling it like it is" nor is it even reporting - it is puerile. This is really tabloid-style stuff then, utterly lacking in substance and meaning, and really nothing to be proud of.
Subject: hi-de-ho Date: Jan 25 2007 10:35:23 AM Author: Goldwater
Amazing story. But now some psycho killer is going to go looking for girls like this. (yeah yeah, they did already but still)
BTW, this kind of behaviour doesn't sound like BDSM kink to me. Those folks are the sexual equivalent of Trekkies. This girl is bottom-line fucked up.
Subject: ojshdfo Date: Jan 25 2007 09:45:39 AM Author: karasu
i'll stick to regular sex please.
Subject: . Date: Jan 25 2007 09:44:36 AM Author: .
thats a dude in the photo. guaranteed.
i'm calling bullshit on this article
Subject: umm Date: Jan 25 2007 09:39:29 AM Author: rookie
sure girls should be able to do whatever they want and be one of the boys... but what happens if this girl ends up getting chopped up into little pieces...who takes the responsibility then? she doesn't tell anyone what she's doing?? this is headed for a seriously bad ending
Subject: Abuse Date: Jan 25 2007 09:29:22 AM Author: M
Since when has it become cool to glorify abuse against women?
Subject: MELODRAMATIC Date: Jan 25 2007 09:25:06 AM Author: Dan
MELODRAMATIC... Not even thought-provoking.
Subject: Hey Jay. Date: Jan 25 2007 09:06:57 AM Author: alpah
Actually dude that owns American apparel is totally into this shit, except he's only into Mexican women.
Subject: hmm . . . Date: Jan 25 2007 09:03:44 AM Author: gibson
It's like the ultimate Cut Piece. How far are these men willing to go when there are no consequences? How far are any of us willing to go?
Subject: Damn Date: Jan 25 2007 08:31:22 AM Author: Damn
True, false, whatever....all I know is those last two sessions did not sound fun. I've been in a knockdown fight in a bathroom, and that ain't fun. Lots of tile up in there. Lots of pain.
Being normal is sometimes pretty cool, I guess.
Subject: phony Date: Jan 25 2007 07:05:15 AM Author: fake
i call BULLSHIT on this phony article. i know people exist who are into this shit, but i think you all were to lazy to actually find one and made it up, not even trying to sound convincing.
FAKE ASS FAKES.
Subject: . Date: Jan 25 2007 06:14:23 AM Author: .
like someone below said, vice is tryin to prove themselves, gain some cred cause they know they`re a bunch of pathetic wannabes who think they were kool once, fuck you vice, you`re all just little girlies who like to be beaten up. No matter if this shit s real or something you made up, you`re not n never will be
Subject: ? Date: Jan 25 2007 05:53:29 AM Author: Jay
' This is a small aspect of proper modern womanhood as defined by general mores. It has just been taken to some kind of extreme. Sad. And lame. And heterosexual.' - I bet you have a rats-tail
Subject: Exploitative Date: Jan 25 2007 05:51:46 AM Author: Jay
Vice. it's disgusting that you print this shit along side American Apparel and Diesel jeans adverts. This article as no relevance to anything, especially in a 'girls' issue.
Subject: what a champ Date: Jan 25 2007 03:36:52 AM Author: captain winnipeg
This isnt kink, its just pychologicaly damaged husks of rubbish asking for death.
Yeah you go girl.
"total empowerment"
Subject: your mother Date: Jan 25 2007 02:42:27 AM Author: freudian psycho babble
obviosly she feels pain that she cant have a stable relationship, so she pursues pain that she can rely on. Satisfying pain with pain
Subject: What a good subject header Date: Jan 25 2007 02:36:22 AM Author: Very witty name
This is a small aspect of proper modern womanhood as defined by general mores. It has just been taken to some kind of extreme. Sad. And lame. And heterosexual.
Subject: just a little... Date: Jan 25 2007 02:17:50 AM Author: Think about it
Remember that scene in Reservoir Dogs where they talk about to tell a good lie you need to focus on all the minute little details to really make it your own?
Subject: . Date: Jan 25 2007 02:06:06 AM Author: .
i bet a confession to a priest will have the same kick.
she only lets herself be abused because she feels ashamed of wanting to do the same thing to men.
Subject: fucked UP, Date: Jan 25 2007 01:27:20 AM Author: whut
This reminds my of that guy "Donny the Punk". If you think this girl has issues look him up... Stories like that make me feel very mild and boring, but they also make me feel pretty OK about that by comparison.
Subject: i agree with htrh Date: Jan 25 2007 01:12:04 AM Author: twist
This has nothing to do with girls. This is fucking bullshit. You'd better have an interview with fucking Hilary Rodham Clinton or something to counteract this crap.
Vice, we know what kind of magazine you are. You don't have to keep proving yourselves with this sort of shit.
Subject: hrthrth Date: Jan 25 2007 12:41:55 AM Author: htrh
why is this in vice
what does this have to do with girls?
Subject: Yowza Date: Jan 25 2007 12:14:20 AM Author: Me
Yeesh... better her than me, I guess.
Subject: sad sad girl. Date: Jan 25 2007 12:06:53 AM Author: Gi
Not impressive, just pathetic.
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